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VESPO: Variational Sequence-level Soft Policy Optimization for Off-Policy LLM Training
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Proposes VESPO, a variational sequence-level soft importance-weight reshaping kernel phi(W)=W^c1 exp(c2(1-W)) for off-policy RL of LLMs, with a variance bound, evaluated on math and code RL under high staleness.
Problem
Off-policy updates from rollout staleness and train-inference mismatch make sequence-level importance sampling high-variance in LLM RL, while existing token-level clipping or length-normalized sequence-level methods are heuristic and biased.
Approach
Frames importance-weight reshaping as a measure change to an implicit proposal Q, derives a closed-form kernel from a KL-regularized objective with a variance (first-moment) constraint, and applies it directly to sequence-level weights without length normalization, with asymmetric hyperparameters for positive and negative advantages.
Key results
- On Qwen3-30B-A3B-Base (gbs/mbs=8), VESPO averages 70.0% across AIME25/AIME24/AMC23/MATH500 vs 59.1% for the best baseline GSPO.
- At staleness N=64 on Qwen3-30B-A3B-Base, VESPO keeps 61.8% average while GRPO reaches 48.6%, GSPO 47.6%, and SAPO collapses to 16.5%.
- On code generation with the same hyperparameters, VESPO averages 63.0 pass@10 across HumanEval+, MBPP+, and LCB v6, best among GRPO, GSPO, SAPO.
Surprising findings
- SAPO, competitive at low staleness, collapses to near-zero downstream accuracy at N>=32 on the MoE model.
- Adding sqrt(T) or T length normalization to VESPO causes instability and collapse, contrary to the common use of length normalization in GSPO.
Limitations
- The (c1, c2) hyperparameters still require user choice and are fixed by empirical selection rather than derived.
- Only verifiable-reward settings (math and code) are evaluated; preference-based or dense rewards are untested.
- Largest model is 30B-scale; frontier-scale behavior is not verified.
Experimental setup
Datasets: DAPO-Math PRIME-RL/Eurus-2-RL-Data
Benchmarks: AIME24 AIME25 AMC23 MATH-500 HumanEval+ MBPP+ LiveCodeBench v6
Metrics: avg@k accuracy pass@10 training reward
Baselines: GRPO GSPO SAPO TOPR CISPO BAPO
Builds on: GRPO GSPO PPO SAPO DAPO
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