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From SGD to Muon: Adaptive Optimization via Schatten-p Norms

NeurIPS 2026 · Optimization › Optimizers · approach: Second-order and structured preconditioning · 0 citations (OpenAlex)

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Proposes SMuon, which adaptively picks a layer-wise Schatten-p LMO geometry (interpolating SGDM and Muon) via a closed-form single-step random-feature proxy, combined with Adam-style preconditioning, and an efficient Taylor/Horner fractional polar factor approximation.

Problem

Existing LMO-based optimizers (SGDM, Muon, MuAdam) fix the update geometry by design or heuristics, which may not be optimal for each layer's problem geometry during training.

Approach

Derive a closed-form layer-wise proxy-optimal Schatten exponent p* from gradient, momentum and activation spectral statistics under a single-step random feature regression model, and use the resulting Schatten-(p+1) LMO update with p-dependent Adam-style second-order preconditioning, computed via a Taylor expansion built on Newton-Schulz polar factor estimates.

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Experimental setup

Datasets: FineWeb ImageNette GSM8K MNIST

Benchmarks: FineWeb validation loss (NanoGPT speedrun) ImageNette validation accuracy GSM8K

Metrics: validation loss train loss validation accuracy

Baselines: AdamW Muon SGDM MuAdam SMuon

Builds on: Muon LMO theory (Pethick et al.) MuAdam Newton-Schulz iteration random feature regression spectral descent analysis

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