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$Q\sharp$: Provably Optimal Distributional RL for LLM Post-Training

NeurIPS 2025 · Reinforcement learning › RL from feedback · approach: Scaling RL with verifiable rewards · 0 citations (OpenAlex)

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Proposes Q♯, a value-based KL-regularized RL method that guides a frozen reference LLM with a distributionally learned optimal soft Q function, trained by iterative data aggregation and MLE/BCE.

Problem

Policy-based RL post-training (PPO, DPO, REINFORCE) struggles to fix shortcuts inherited from pre-training, and existing value-guided decoding methods (CD, VAS) guide with unregularized Q-values, which does not converge to the KL-regularized optimal policy.

Approach

Guide the frozen reference policy with the optimal KL-regularized Q function, expressed as a functional of the learned cumulative-reward distribution of the reference policy; learn that distribution with distributional (MLE/BCE) supervised losses on data aggregated across iterations (DAgger-style), with no TD bootstrapping.

Key results

Measured effects reported in the paper

What was changedWhereMeasuredEffect
Guide the reference model with Q♯Llama 3 8B · GSM8Kpass@1: 69.1 -> 78.4Helped
Guide the reference model with Q♯ rather than CDLlama 3 8B · GSM8KKL-Divergence: 6.39 -> 2.65Helped
Guide the reference model with Q♯Llama 3.1 8B · MATH-500pass@1: 43.9 -> 46.7Helped
Add Q♯ guidanceLlama 3.1 70B · MATH-500pass@1: 60.6 -> 63.1Helped
Increase Q♯ model size from 1B to 3BLlama 3 70B · MATH-500pass@1: 46.4 -> 46.7Helped
Train on all later prefixes rather than only the current prefix (ablation)Q♯ · GSM8K validationpass@1: 80.5 -> 82.3Helped
Use V-type rather than Q-type parameterization (ablation)Q♯ · MATH validationpass@1: 66.4 -> 67.4Helped
Use distributional loss rather than MSE (ablation)Q♯ · MATH validationpass@1: 65.4 -> 67.4Helped
Use two iterations rather than one (ablation)Q♯ · GSM8K validationpass@1: 82.3 -> 83.5Helped
Use two iterations rather than one (ablation)Q♯ · MATH validationpass@1: 67.4 -> 68.5Helped

Surprising findings

Limitations

Experimental setup

Datasets: GSM8K MATH QuALITY AIME-24 star-graph synthetic graphs

Benchmarks: GSM8K MATH-500 AIME-24 QuALITY star-graph

Metrics: pass@1 maj1@8 KL divergence test accuracy

Baselines: Controlled Decoding (CD) REINFORCE DPO RPO Value augmented sampling (VAS)

Builds on: controlled decoding DAgger soft Q-learning DPO

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