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SFT-then-RL Outperforms Mixed-Policy Methods for LLM Reasoning
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Shows that SFT baselines used by several mixed-policy RL papers were deflated by DeepSpeed CPU-offload and OpenRLHF loss-aggregation bugs, and that a corrected SFT-then-RL pipeline beats those methods on math benchmarks with Qwen2.5-Math-7B and Llama-3.1-8B.
Problem
Recent mixed-policy methods that blend SFT and RL for LLM reasoning report gains over SFT-then-RL, but their SFT baselines may be weakened by bugs in shared training frameworks, so the reported improvements may be inflated.
Approach
Identify two silent SFT bugs (a DeepSpeed CPU-offloaded optimizer dropping intermediate micro-batch gradients, and OpenRLHF's mean-of-per-mini-batch-means loss aggregation), fix them, and re-benchmark mixed-policy methods against a properly trained SFT->RL pipeline under controlled conditions.
Key results
- Corrected SFT->RL reaches 57.0 average on in-distribution math benchmarks with Qwen2.5-Math-7B, +3.8 over the next-best mixed-policy method SRFT (53.2).
- On Llama-3.1-8B, corrected SFT->RL averages 43.7 versus 21.5 for the best published mixed-policy method HPT, a +22.2 gap.
- Fixing only the CPU-offloaded optimizer bug raises the OpenRLHF SFT average from 48.3 to 53.4; fixing both reaches 54.0, matching verl's 53.8.
Surprising findings
- A 50-step truncated SFT->RL run outperforms LUFFY and ReLIFT on in-distribution math benchmarks while using fewer FLOPs.
- Reproducing a published SFT baseline with its own hyperparameters yielded a weaker score (48.3 vs 53.8), with the SFT learning rate and batch size being a major factor.
Limitations
- Limited to math reasoning with Qwen2.5-Math-7B and Llama-3.1-8B; no code or general-reasoning domains or larger scales.
- Mixed-policy methods were not tested atop a corrected SFT checkpoint, so a possible added value of mixed-policy stages is not assessed.
- ReLIFT and HPT SFT configurations could not be fully verified; LUFFY/ReLIFT reproductions are single-seed.
Experimental setup
Datasets: OpenR1-Math-46k-8192 OpenR1-Math-220k NuminaMath 1.5
Benchmarks: AIME24 AIME25 AMC MATH-500 Minerva OlympiadBench ARC-Challenge GPQA-Diamond MMLU-Pro
Metrics: avg@32 pass@1 average score
Baselines: LUFFY ReLIFT SRFT Prefix-RFT HPT
Builds on: GRPO DeepSpeed OpenRLHF verl LUFFY
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