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No Train No Gain: Revisiting Efficient Training Algorithms For Transformer-based Language Models
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Measured effects reported in the paper
| What was changed | Where | Measured | Effect |
|---|---|---|---|
| Use Layerstack within a fixed 6h or 12h training budget | T5-Base pre-training · SNI | ROUGE-L: 34.2 ± 0.2 -> 38.9 ± 0.2; 38.3 ± 0.4 -> 39.2 ± 0.1 | Helped |
| Use Layerstack at a 24h budget | T5-Base pre-training · SNI | ROUGE-L: 39.5 ± 0.1 -> 38.9 ± 0.2 | Hurt |
| Use Layerdrop instead of the baseline | T5-Base pre-training · SNI | ROUGE-L: 34.2 ± 0.2 -> 31.5 ± 0.3; 38.3 ± 0.4 -> 34.4 ± 0.8; 39.5 ± 0.1 -> 38.0 ± 0.5 | Hurt |
| Use batch selection with its selection computation charged to the budget | BERT-Base-like pre-training · C4 validation | validation loss: Baseline 2.42 / 2.20 / 2.10; Selective Backprop 2.73 / 2.44 / 2.18; RHO Loss 2.61 / 2.37 / 2.16 | Hurt |
| Ignore batch-selection costs and train for the same number of iterations (ablation) | RHO Loss · C4, 12h, GLUE | GLUE score: 77.79 ± 0.2 -> 77.16 ± 0.4 | Hurt |
| Ignore batch-selection costs and train for the same number of iterations (ablation) | Selective Backprop · C4, 12h, GLUE | GLUE score: 77.79 ± 0.2 -> 77.92 ± 0.1 | No clear effect |
| Do not count Sophia Hessian update steps and run the same number of iterations (ablation) | Sophia · BERT validation | validation loss | No clear effect |
| Increase the Selective Backprop selectivity scale β (ablation) | Selective Backprop · pre-training validation | validation loss | Hurt |
| Increase the RHO Loss mega-batch size (ablation) | RHO Loss · pre-training validation | validation loss | Hurt |
| Use Layerdrop when the baseline overfits on a truncated, repeatedly seen dataset (ablation) | BERT pre-training · small dataset, roughly 180 epochs | validation loss | Helped |
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