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Reasoning-Trace Collapse: Evaluating the Loss of Explicit Reasoning During Fine-Tuning
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Shows that standard SFT on instruction-response data without reasoning traces causes reasoning models to lose valid explicit reasoning traces (reasoning-trace collapse), and that loss masking mitigates this without teacher traces, with a structural evaluation framework and the ThinkPack library.
Problem
Fine-tuning reasoning models on instruction-response data lacking explicit reasoning traces can silently erase their structurally valid reasoning, which answer-only metrics fail to reveal.
Approach
Defines reasoning-trace collapse and a structural evaluation framework (valid, empty, missing, truncated reasoning rates plus reasoning-conditioned pass rate), and shows that simple loss masking of empty/missing reasoning regions preserves valid reasoning as an alternative to teacher distillation.
Key results
- On Chemistry, Qwen3-8B and Nemotron-7B reach 0% valid reasoning under standard SFT while pass rate keeps improving to 50-57%.
- Llama-R1-8B drops to 0% Chemistry valid reasoning under no-think formatting but keeps 71% under empty-think.
- Masking strategies preserve substantially more valid reasoning than standard fine-tuning; distillation is strongest for Qwen3-8B and Llama-R1-8B but performs poorly for Olmo-3-7B (GSM8K VR 22%).
Surprising findings
- Model-default formatting is not reliably protective: Qwen3-8B is more stable with no-think, while Olmo-3-7B and Llama-R1-8B preserve reasoning better with empty-think.
- Teacher distillation with GPT-5-mini traces performs worst for Olmo-3-7B, failing to preserve GSM8K reasoning.
Limitations
- Only four small reasoning models and one main fine-tuning dataset; external validity limited.
- Evaluation on fixed 256-example subsets with greedy decoding and two seeds (ablations single seed).
- Metrics are structural only and do not establish correctness or faithfulness of traces.
Experimental setup
Datasets: SciKnowEval Chemistry L-3 GSM8K EvalPlus (HumanEval+, MBPP+) OrcaMath SelfOSS
Benchmarks: SciKnowEval Chemistry L-3 GSM8K EvalPlus
Metrics: valid reasoning rate empty reasoning rate missing reasoning rate truncated reasoning rate pass@1 reasoning-conditioned pass rate
Baselines: standard fine-tuning (empty-think) no-think formatting GPT-5-mini teacher distillation
Builds on: LoRA AdamW chain-of-thought DeepSeek-R1 distillation Hugging Face transformers
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