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The Many Faces of On-Policy Distillation: Pitfalls, Mechanisms, and Fixes
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Empirical study of when on-policy distillation (OPD) and on-policy self-distillation (OPSD) succeed or fail, identifying three failure mechanisms and proposing stop-gradient TopK KL, RLVR-adapted teachers, and SFT stabilization as fixes.
Problem
On-policy (self-)distillation for LLMs gives mixed results: it works for system-prompt and knowledge internalization but reportedly fails or destabilizes on reasoning tasks. The paper asks when OP(S)D works, when it fails, and why.
Approach
Attributes OP(S)D failures to three mechanisms: prefix-induced teacher-student distribution mismatch, biased gradients of unnormalized TopK reverse KL (the +1 term), and OPSD learning a PI-free geometric-mean policy that fails when PI is instance-specific. Proposes stop-gradient TopK KL, RLVR-adapted teachers, and SFT-stabilized students as remedies.
Key results
- Unnormalized Top-20 reverse-KL OPD on Qwen3-1.7B with Qwen3-8B teacher initially improves then collapses to repetitive outputs with Math500/AIME accuracy near zero by step 1000.
- On math, OPSD with final-answer or full-response PI does not stably improve Math500, AIME24, or AIME25; response-PI performs worst.
- Qwen3-1.7B-GRPO teacher (RLVR-adapted, comparable to Qwen3-8B on math) yields significantly better OPD student than the Qwen3-8B teacher, showing teacher accuracy alone does not predict OPD effectiveness.
Surprising findings
- A RL-adapted 1.7B teacher with similar benchmark accuracy to Qwen3-8B distills better than Qwen3-8B, suggesting closeness to student distribution matters more than accuracy.
- Under PI conditioning, the OPSD student performs worse than vanilla OPD even though the PI-conditioned teacher is informative; PI increases teacher-student mismatch on math.
Limitations
- Findings based on a limited set of model families and scales; larger-scale settings may differ.
- Math OPSD failure tested only in the tested settings (Qwen3 models, OpenThoughts/DAPO data).
Experimental setup
Datasets: OpenThoughts DAPO-Math-17k CharacterBench EmotionBench Wildguardmix
Benchmarks: Math500 AIME24 AIME25 GPQA-Diamond CharacterBench EmotionBench Wildguardmix
Metrics: accuracy pass@1 response length training reward evaluation score repetition ratio teacher-student overlap
Baselines: GRPO PPO vanilla OPD Qwen3-8B teacher
Builds on: on-policy distillation GRPO DAPO SDPO PPO
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