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Found in Conversation: LLMs Teach Themselves to Close the Multi-Turn Gap
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Proposes Found in Conversation (FiC): SFT warm-start on sharded multi-turn GSM8K with deferral responses, then View-Asymmetric Self-Distillation that distills a single-turn concatenated-view teacher into the same model's multi-turn student view, closing much of the Lost-in-Conversation gap.
Problem
LLMs perform far worse when task information is revealed gradually across underspecified multi-turn turns than in a single fully specified prompt (Lost-in-Conversation), and existing fixes (prompting, SFT, RL, external-teacher distillation) have difficulties.
Approach
Self-distillation with input-view asymmetry: the same frozen backbone acts as teacher on an information-equivalent single-turn concatenated view and as student on the multi-turn sharded view; a token-level JS divergence on the final answer aligns them, with on-policy intermediate turns, and no external teacher or privileged information.
Key results
- On the GSM8K sharded setting, FiC reaches 100% recovery rate on Llama-3.2-3B and Llama-3.1-8B and 92-94% on Qwen2.5-7B, OLMo-2-13B, and Phi-4-14B (e.g., Llama-3.1-8B sharded 44.7 -> 71.7).
- FiC reduces mean tokens per sharded conversation by up to 32.5% (Qwen2.5-7B) while keeping turn counts unchanged.
- Vanilla distillation from Llama-3.1-8B to Llama-3.2-3B drops accuracy to 30.7 from a 39.2 baseline, while FiC reaches 60.4.
Surprising findings
- Vanilla distillation from a stronger teacher (Llama-3.1-8B to Llama-3.2-3B) hurts performance rather than helping.
- Inference-time interventions (prompting, judge gating) often fail to improve or degrade sharded accuracy.
Limitations
- User simulator is cooperative and non-pivoting; does not model corrections or retractions.
- Evaluation test splits are small (~100 instances per task) limiting resolution.
- Single-turn accuracy regresses notably for Llama-3.2-3B (60.2 to 52.6 on concat).
Experimental setup
Datasets: GSM8K Spider Berkeley Function Calling Leaderboard Lost-in-Conversation sharded benchmark
Benchmarks: GSM8K sharded (Lost-in-Conversation) Spider sharded (Database) BFCL sharded (Actions)
Metrics: accuracy recovery rate mean tokens per conversation
Baselines: Lost-in-Conversation sharded baseline prompt-rule prompt-selfcheck gated-external gated-self vanilla distillation SFT only off-policy VASD
Builds on: Lost-in-Conversation on-policy distillation self-distillation with privileged information LoRA
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