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Missing Old Logits in Asynchronous Agentic RL: Semantic Mismatch and Repair Methods for Off-Policy Correction
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Identifies the missing-old-logit problem in asynchronous agentic RL that breaks decoupled discrepancy/staleness PPO correction, compares three exact old-logit acquisition routes, and proposes a revised PPO-EWMA proximal reference with auto-reset as a low-cost approximation.
Problem
In asynchronous LLM agentic RL with delayed updates and partial rollouts, the training-side old logits needed for decoupled importance correction (discrepancy repair vs. policy staleness) are often unavailable, so the decomposition becomes semantically invalid and clipping/masking interfere.
Approach
Decomposes the total importance ratio into a training-inference discrepancy ratio and a staleness ratio; proposes exact old-logit acquisition routes (snapshots, dedicated old-logit model, partial-rollout interruption) and a revised PPO-EWMA proximal reference with staleness-aware decay (beta ~ W/(W+2)) and an automatic reset when the train-infer mask falls below a threshold.
Key results
- On Qwen3-30B-A3B, PPO-EWMA reaches 67.82 avg@4 on tau2-Bench retail versus 65.43 for Decoupled PPO and 69.70 for the Snapshot idealized reference.
- PPO-EWMA cuts CPU storage for old-logit handling from 76.4 GB to 15.2 GB and extra time from 150 s to 34 s on the 30B model compared with Snapshot.
- On Qwen3-30B-A3B, PPO-EWMA attains 60 avg@4 on airline, exceeding Snapshot's 59 avg@4 and Decoupled PPO's 57.
Surprising findings
- PPO-EWMA beats the exact-old-logit Snapshot reference on some splits (e.g., 30B airline avg@4 60 vs 59; 4B airline avg@4 54 vs 56 is not beaten, so mixed), suggesting exact correction is not uniformly superior.
- Interpolation-based proxies (linear_prox, log-linear) are shown analytically and empirically to merely reparameterize clipping boundaries of the total ratio rather than restoring the missing reference.
Limitations
- PPO-EWMA is an approximate reference, not true recovery of the missing old policy logits.
- May become unreliable under highly non-stationary staleness or extreme version gaps.
- Snapshot-based overhead measurements come from short runs (77 and 11 steps), limiting conclusions.
Experimental setup
Datasets: Agentic RL corpus (TU_Pipeline, multiple environments)
Benchmarks: tau2-Bench (retail) tau2-Bench (airline) tau2-Bench (telecom) VitaBench (in-store) VitaBench (delivery)
Metrics: avg@k pass@k system overhead (storage, extra time)
Baselines: Decoupled PPO Linear_prox Snapshot
Builds on: PPO Decoupled PPO IcePop GRPO A-3PO
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