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Exploring the limits of strong membership inference attacks on large language models

NeurIPS 2025 · Large language models › Instruction and fine-tuning · approach: Safety alignment after fine-tuning · 1 citations (OpenAlex)

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Scales LiRA to GPT-2 models (10M to 1B parameters) trained on up to ~100M C4 samples with thousands of reference models, finding strong MIAs succeed but remain limited (AUC<0.7 in typical settings), with substantial per-sample decision instability.

Problem

Whether membership inference attacks are fundamentally ineffective on pre-trained LLMs, given that strong attacks need many reference models that are costly to train at LLM scale.

Approach

Pre-trains thousands of GPT-2-style reference models on very large C4 subsets so the strongest reference-based attack (LiRA) can be run at pre-trained LLM scale, and measures per-sample decision stability via a flip-rate diagnostic across training seeds.

Key results

Measured effects reported in the paper

What was changedWhereMeasuredEffect
increase the number of IN references from 4 to 64 (ablation)LiRA on GPT-2 140M · C4, approximately 7M samplesAUC: 0.594 -> 0.678Helped
use loss instead of logits as the observation statistic (ablation)LiRA on GPT-2 140M · C4, approximately 7M samplesAUC: 0.576 -> 0.678Helped
train for 2 epochs on half the dataset rather than 1 epoch on the full dataset (ablation)LiRA on GPT-2 44M · C4, Chinchilla-optimal total training tokensAUC: 0.620 -> 0.744Helped
continue training from epoch 1 through epoch 10 (ablation)LiRA on GPT-2 140M · C4, Chinchilla-optimal datasetAUC: 0.573 -> 0.797Helped
train on around 1M samples rather than very small or very large datasets (ablation)LiRA on GPT-2 140M · C4, 1 epochAUC: 0.753Mixed
increase model size while keeping the training set fixed at approximately 8.3M samples (ablation)LiRA · C4, approximately 8.3M samples, 1 epochTPR at fixed FPRHelped
increase model size under Chinchilla-optimal 1-epoch training (ablation)LiRA · C4, Chinchilla-optimal trainingAUC: 0.699; 0.689; 0.547; 0.654; 0.553Mixed
use LiRA rather than RMIA with 64 IN referencesmembership inference on GPT-2 140M · C4, approximately 7M samplesAUC: 0.658 -> 0.678Helped
use RMIA rather than LiRA with 4 IN referencesmembership inference on GPT-2 140M · C4, approximately 7M samplesAUC: 0.594 -> 0.643Helped
increase training dataset size from the Chinchilla-optimal setting to approximately 8.3M samples while holding model size fixed (ablation)LiRA on GPT-2 models · C4, 1 epochTPR at fixed FPRMixed
remove the population comparison from RMIA and use its simple variant (ablation)RMIA on GPT-2 10M · C4, 2^19 training samples, 1 epochAUCNo clear effect
increase RMIA population size |Z| (ablation)RMIA on GPT-2 10M · C4, 2^19 training samples, 1 epochTPR at low FPRHelped

Surprising findings

Limitations

Experimental setup

Datasets: C4

Benchmarks: C4 member/non-member splits

Metrics: AUC TPR at fixed FPR flip rate

Baselines: loss attack RMIA fine-tuning attacks

Builds on: LiRA RMIA NanoDO Chinchilla scaling laws

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