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Reparameterized LLM Training via Orthogonal Equivalence Transformation

NeurIPS 2025 · Large language models › Language, safety and interpretability · approach: Pruning and circuits in LLMs · 0 citations (OpenAlex)

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Proposes POET, which reparameterizes each neuron weight matrix as R W0 P with a fixed random W0 and two learnable orthogonal matrices, using stochastic primitive optimization and Cayley-Neumann parameterization to scale LLM pretraining.

Problem

Training LLMs with direct AdamW optimization is costly and has suboptimal generalization and poorly controlled weight spectra; existing spectrum regularization is computationally expensive and only constrains the largest singular value.

Approach

Reparameterize each weight matrix as R W0 P with fixed random W0 and learnable orthogonal R and P, so singular values are preserved exactly; scale via stochastic primitive optimization (sampled sub-block orthogonal primitives merged periodically) and a truncated Neumann-series Cayley parameterization for orthogonality.

Key results

Measured effects reported in the paper

What was changedWhereMeasuredEffect
replace AdamW with POET fully stochastic, b=1/2LLaMA pretraining on C4 · C4 validation, LLaMA-60M to LLaMA-1.3Bperplexity: 26.68 -> 25.37; 20.82 -> 19.94; 16.78 -> 15.95; 14.73 -> 13.70Helped
replace AdamW with POET fully stochastic, b=1/2LLaMA-3B pretraining · LLaMA-3B, 5B tokensperplexity: 19.61 -> 16.90Helped
use POET pretrained weights instead of AdamW pretrained weightsGLUE downstream finetuning · GLUE tasks across Full FT, OFT, and POET finetuningtask scoresHelped
allocate the parameter budget evenly between left and right orthogonal matricesPOET · Validation perplexity under a fixed parameter budgetperplexityHelped
use normalized Gaussian initialization rather than standard Gaussian, Xavier, or uniform-spectrum initialization (ablation)POET fully stochastic, b=1/2 · LLaMA-60M, C4 validationperplexity: 26.22 -> 25.37; 25.79 -> 25.37; 27.29 -> 25.37Helped
use uniform-spectrum initialization instead of normalized Gaussian initialization (ablation)POET fully stochastic, b=1/2 · LLaMA-60M, C4 validationperplexity: 25.37 -> 27.29Hurt
set merge-then-reinitialize frequency to 5 rather than 400 (ablation)POET fully stochastic, b=1/2 · LLaMA-60M, C4 validationperplexity: 25.31 -> 30.29Hurt
set merge-then-reinitialize frequency to 25 rather than 400 (ablation)POET fully stochastic, b=1/2 · LLaMA-60M, C4 validationperplexity: 25.31 -> 27.27Hurt
set merge-then-reinitialize frequency to 50 rather than 400 (ablation)POET fully stochastic, b=1/2 · LLaMA-60M, C4 validationperplexity: 25.31 -> 25.99Hurt
set merge-then-reinitialize frequency to 200 rather than 400 (ablation)POET fully stochastic, b=1/2 · LLaMA-60M, C4 validationperplexity: 25.31 -> 25.37No clear effect
set merge-then-reinitialize frequency to 1600 rather than 400 (ablation)POET fully stochastic, b=1/2 · LLaMA-60M, C4 validationperplexity: 25.31 -> 25.58Hurt
retain Neumann-series terms rather than drop all terms (k=0) (ablation)POET fully stochastic, b=1/2 · LLaMA-130M, C4 validationperplexity: Not converged -> 22.56Helped

Surprising findings

Limitations

Experimental setup

Datasets: C4 GLUE

Benchmarks: C4 validation perplexity GLUE

Metrics: validation perplexity accuracy Matthews correlation Pearson correlation hyperspherical energy singular value entropy

Baselines: AdamW GaLore LoRA OFT Muon

Builds on: orthogonal fine-tuning (OFT) GaLore LoRA Cayley parameterization

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