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Long Grounded Thoughts: Synthesizing Visual Problems and Reasoning Chains at Scale
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Synthesizes over 1M vision-centric MCQ problems with long reasoning traces, preference pairs, and RL prompts from DOCCI captions and Grounded-SAM boxes, then fine-tunes Qwen2.5-VL-7B via SFT, DPO, and GRPO.
Problem
Open-source multimodal reasoning lags behind text reasoning because there is no systematic way to synthesize large-scale, complex, vision-centric problems with rich long chain-of-thought traces; prior caption-only synthesis saturates quickly.
Approach
Ground MCQ synthesis on object-level bounding boxes and tags (not only dense captions) to avoid diversity collapse, then compose up to five Stage-1 questions per image into harder multi-hop questions, and expand VLM rationales with a stronger reasoning LLM to add cognitive behaviors (subgoal setting, backtracking, verification).
Key results
- Qwen2.5-VL-7B fine-tuned with multistage SFT+DPO reaches 83.25 on V* Bench, exceeding MiMo-VL-7B-RL (81.70) on that benchmark.
- SFT+GRPO reaches 83.80 on CV-Bench and 68.40 on MMStar-V, matching or surpassing MiMo-VL-7B-RL on these benchmarks.
- Composition hardening reduces the perfect-solve rate from 36.7% (LPT) to 3.3% on Stage 2 data, and CoT richness rises from 0.65 to 1.99 behaviors per trace.
Surprising findings
- Short CoT distillation from VLM traces degrades performance below no-CoT direct answers.
- Online GRPO from the base instruct model peaks early and falls below SFT on the same data, so cognitive-behavior SFT is needed before RL.
Limitations
- Relies on human-annotated DOCCI captions; automatically generated captions are deferred to future work.
- Gains on some benchmarks (e.g., MMVP, RealWorldQA) lag MiMo-VL-7B and the base model on several configurations.
- GRPO gains saturate beyond about 70K prompts.
Experimental setup
Datasets: DOCCI MMStar-V
Baselines: LongPerceptualThoughts VLAA-Thinker ReVisual-R1 Virgo MiMo-VL-7B-RL MiMo-VL-7B-SFT GPT-4o
Builds on: LongPerceptualThoughts DPO GRPO Grounded-SAM
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- MMFineReason: Closing the Multimodal Reasoning Gap via Open Data-Centric Methods (NeurIPS 2026 · similarity 0.93)
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- Zebra-CoT: A Dataset for Interleaved Vision-Language Reasoning (ICLR 2026 · similarity 0.91)
- VisuRiddles: Fine-grained Perception is a Primary Bottleneck for Multimodal Large Language Models in Abstract Visual Reasoning (ICLR 2026 · similarity 0.91)
- Latent Implicit Visual Reasoning (CVPR 2026 · similarity 0.91)
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