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Overtrained Language Models Are Harder to Fine-Tune

ICML 2025 · Large language models › Instruction and fine-tuning · approach: Efficient LLM fine-tuning systems · 2 citations (OpenAlex)

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Shows that extending pre-training can make LLMs harder to fine-tune ("catastrophic overtraining"), explained by progressive sensitivity of pre-trained parameters, supported by OLMo experiments, controlled small-model experiments, and a deep linear network theory.

Problem

Whether longer pre-training (larger token budgets) always improves downstream performance after post-training; the paper shows extended pre-training can degrade performance after fine-tuning.

Approach

Identifies "catastrophic overtraining" and "progressive sensitivity": for a fixed perturbation magnitude or fixed fine-tuning learning rate, the pre-trained model's perplexity degradation grows monotonically with pre-training tokens, so beyond an inflection point, more pre-training hurts post-fine-tuning performance; theoretically analyzed with two-layer linear networks.

Key results

Measured effects reported in the paper

What was changedWhereMeasuredEffect
Extend pre-training from 2.3T to 3T tokens before Anthropic-HH instruction tuningOLMo-1B · AlpacaEvalresponse rate: 3% worseHurt
Extend pre-training from 2.3T to 3T tokens before Anthropic-HH instruction tuningOLMo-1B · ARCperformance: 2% worseHurt
Extend pre-training beyond 2.5T tokens before instruction tuningOLMo-1B · instruction-tuning ID and OOD tasksperformanceHurt
Extend pre-training beyond 2.5T tokens before multimodal fine-tuningOLMo-1B · PIQAperformanceHurt
Extend pre-training beyond 2.5T tokens before multimodal fine-tuningOLMo-1B · VLM scoreperformanceNo clear effect
Extend pre-training up to 3T tokens before fine-tuningOLMo-7B · reported fine-tuning and evaluation setupsperformanceNo clear effect
Increase the pre-training token budgetOLMo-1B base models · downstream tasks before fine-tuningperformanceHelped
Increase the pre-training token budget while keeping Gaussian perturbation magnitude fixedpre-trained models · C4perplexity change after perturbationHurt
Increase the Gaussian perturbation magnitudepre-trained models · C4perplexity after perturbationHurt
Increase pre-training tokens while holding fine-tuning learning rate fixedpre-trained models · C4perplexity change after fine-tuningHurt
Use a larger fine-tuning learning ratepre-trained models · C4perplexity after fine-tuningHurt
Use a larger fine-tuning learning rate, up to a pointpre-trained models · fine-tuning ID taskperplexityHelped

Surprising findings

Limitations

Experimental setup

Datasets: Anthropic-HH TULU LLaVA visual instruction tuning data C4

Benchmarks: AlpacaEval ARC-Easy ARC-Challenge HellaSwag PIQA Winogrande

Metrics: AlpacaEval response rate accuracy VLM score C4 perplexity ID perplexity

Baselines: OLMo-1B intermediate checkpoints LLM360-Amber-7B OLMo-2-7B

Builds on: LLaVA Chinchilla scaling laws incremental feature learning in deep linear networks

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