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Position: Will we run out of data? Limits of LLM scaling based on human-generated data

ICML 2024 · Large language models › Language, safety and interpretability · approach: Zero-shot machine-text detection · 83 citations (OpenAlex)

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Projects LLM training dataset growth against an estimated stock of public human-generated text, forecasting that data will be fully utilized around 2026-2032 and surveying ways to circumvent the bottleneck.

Problem

Whether the finite stock of public human-generated text data can sustain continued scaling of LLM training datasets and compute.

Approach

Combines an estimated stock of public human text (indexed web via Google index size and Common Crawl bytes per page, plus an internet-user-based model) with a mixture of historical and compute-based projections of training dataset size, adjusted for quality filtering and multi-epoch training, to predict when the stock is exhausted.

Key results

Measured effects reported in the paper

What was changedWhereMeasuredEffect
Assume frontier models are overtrained by 5x starting from 2025Compute-based data-usage projection · Public human text data availabilitytraining compute at bottleneck: ~5e28 FLOP -> ~6e27 FLOPHurt
Add access to non-public platform and messaging dataPublic human text data stock projection · Public human text data availabilitybottleneck timing: about a year and a halfHelped
Use data from images and video in addition to textPublic human text data stock projection · Data availabilitybottleneck timingNo clear effect
Use synthetic data for trainingLanguage models · Mathematics, programming, and gamesperformanceHelped

Surprising findings

Limitations

Experimental setup

Datasets: Common Crawl RefinedWeb C4 RedPajama The Pile Pushshift Reddit

Metrics: median exhaustion year stock size in tokens training compute at exhaustion (FLOP)

Builds on: Chinchilla scaling law Villalobos-style notable models database (Epoch) Muennighoff et al. data-constrained scaling Common Crawl RefinedWeb

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